Did you ever hear of Mooneystown in Glencree?

Chris Corlett writes about changing land ownership around Curtlestown. This article was originally posted on his website, where you can read more of his writing on a variety of topics relating to history and antiquities.

A FEW YEARS AGO I came across an interesting story recorded in the Schools Manuscripts held in the National Folklore Collection in UCD. It was recorded in the late 1930s at Annacarter School near Roundwood:

There was a partial clearance about 70 years ago of 70 families out of part of Glencree now known as Mooneystown from the number of persons of that name (Mooney). They were squatters on the mountainside. Having built rude edifices of clay, wood and bracken and reclaimed small patches on the bleak mountainside, they were beginning to enjoy small comforts when they were unexpectedly visited by the Lord Powerscourt agent who demanded rent for their little holdings. The women were terrified under threat of eviction and entreated their husbands and brothers to comply with the agent’s demands, which seemed most moderate, only a few pence a week being at first demanded. This was to establish the land lord’s title to the holdings. When this had been secured English law was soon put into operation. The sheriff soon appeared and all were evicted. The night following the evictions the infuriated heads of families assembled and burned the old shacks to the ground. (NFC 917/253).

For a long time I was perplexed by the named Mooneystown – easily confused with the better known Moneystown near Roundwood. But the account in the Schools Manuscripts was clear that Mooneystown was in Glencree. Some initial enquiries in the area also turned up no results. And then I remembered the Powerscourt Estate maps from 1816, copies of which are held in the Irish Architectural Archive. Sure enough, there were three families of Mooney’s in the townlands of Curtlestown Upper and the adjoining part of Curtlestown Lower, on the northern side of the Glencree valley. The map reproduced here shows both townlands and is based on the 1st edition Ordnance Survey maps from 1838, but I have transferred the information on the 1816 Powerscourt Estate map here for convenience. This information includes who held what land, and what that land was used for.

Curtlestown Upper and Curtlestown Lower in 1816

Curtlestown Upper and Curtlestown Lower in 1816. (The location of the Chapel will help orientate.)

The largest holding shown is Bethel Burton’s farm (No 2) in Curtlestown Lower. However, what are relevant to this discussion are all the eleven tiny holdings to the north-west, mostly in Curtlestown Upper, but also in the adjoining part of Curtlestown Lower. The largest of these holdings are:

  • No 5 – John Smith,
  • No 6 – James & William Cox,
  • No 7 – Edward Mooney,
  • No 8 – John & James Mooney (all in Curtlestown Upper), and
  • No 3 – Laurence Mooney (Curtlestown Lower)

Notably, several of the plots of arable and pasture lands were held jointly by families with different names – perhaps indicating that they were related through marriage.

The settlement pattern shown on the 1816 map of Curtlestown Upper and Curtlestown Lower is very interesting, with small clusters of two or three houses, generally with arable and meadow lands nearby, suggestive of crop rotation. The pasture lands are mostly situated further from the farmsteads. Of particular interest is the large undivided field in Curtlestown Lower which is shown as ‘rundale’; this must have been a large arable field that was cultivated collectively by all eleven small tenant farmers.

So, the identification of Mooneystown appears to have been solved, and there seems no doubt that it equates with the townland known today at Curtlestown Upper – though the 11 families living here in 1816 falls well short of the alleged 70 families mentioned in the story above.

But what about that part of the story which describes the large-scale evictions of the families living in so-called Mooneystown? If we take Curtlestown Upper, we don’t know the population living there in 1816, but we can say that there were at least 8, possibly 9 inhabited houses in the townland. In 1841 we know from the census that the population living in Curtlestown Upper was 19, living in 5 houses. So the population appears to have declined between 1816 and 1841, but this hardly equates with a large-scale clearance. Interestingly, in 1851 the population was actually 20, again living in 5 houses. So the population in the townland was surprisingly very stable during this period that saw the Great Famine. However, within a couple of years, and certainly by the time of Griffith’s Valuation in the mid-1850s, all the inhabitants of Curtlestown Upper had been removed. The entire townland of Curtlestown Upper was held by Thomas Walker (the main tenant in Curtlestown Lower), and the only house – described as a herd’s house – was uninhabited at the time of the valuation’s survey. Therefore, between 1851 and 1855 there must have been a large-scale clearance of all the families that had been living in Curtlestown Upper. This then supports the story in the Schools Manuscripts.

In any good story there is always a twist. By the time of the 1901 census the Walker family continued to hold much of Curtlestown Upper. However, what is more interesting is that only two people lived in the entire townland; Brigit Gallagher, a 16 year old apprentice from Leitrim, who lived with none other than one Catherine Mooney (aged 66), described as a widow and labourer.

The map of Curtlestown Upper and Curtlestown Lower reproduced here shows the ownership and landuse in 1816 (based on the Powerscourt estate map of Curtlestown, held in the Irish Architectural Archive).

Acknowledgements

My thanks the National Folklore Collection in UCD for access to the Schools Manuscripts, and to the Irish Architectural Archive for access to the 1816 Powerscourt Estate Maps.

You can read lots more at Chris’ website: http://www.christiaancorlett.com/

For text searching purposes, the names associated with the holdings on the map are: 2: Bethel Burton; 3: Laurence Mooney; 4: Pat McArdle; 5: John Smith; 6: James and William Cox; 7: Edward Mooney; 8: John and James Mooney; 9: Thomas Whelan; 10: Philip McAneney; 11: James Kiernan; 12: James McArdle; 13: Laurence McArdle.

Curtlestown: Request for aid for salary for Asst Teacher 1875: ED1/97 (Archive Month #22)

ED1/97 No. 52, Curtlestown Roll #1119, Co. Wicklow, District 40

Request for aid by Thomas O’Dwyer towards the salary of an assistant teacher

5 April 1875

Jeremiah Golden is the principal, Margaret Dowling in the W-mistress, Mary A Doyle is monitress

Request for aid for Sarah ?Morris?/?Morrin? age 17yrs, appointed 17-2-1875.

70 males, 77 females currently enrolled in the school, average 30.3 males, 34.4 females

Report on application

Details as above – inspector comments that he believes the services of an assistant to be most necessary; such an appointment has been desirable since the superannuation of the late principal(E Phillips (July 73) as the attendance increased hugely after that change but no eligible person offered till lately.

Curtlestown NS: Application for Asst. Teacher Salary 1863: ED1/95 (Archive Month #21)

Further Application, 9 Jul 1863: ED1/95 No. 96 – Curtlestown Roll #1119, Co. Wicklow, District 40 & 38

Application referred to sub-committee 8th Sept 1863

Queries

to be answered on application to the commissioners of national education for aid towards the

Salary of an Assistant Teacher

In Curtlestown National School

in the Parish of Powerscourt County of Wicklow

  1. How many apartments are there in this house used as a school house?

Two

  1. What are the internal dimensions of each?

No answer

  1. State the name of the teachers employed in each school room

Evan Phillips

  1. State the Christian and Surname of the Assistant Teacher or Teachers on whose behalf you now apply?

Anne Toole

  1. State also the age of each

Anne Toole 16 yrs

  1. Did they ever conduct a National or any other school?

Not any

  1. If so state the name of such national schook, and during what period?

  1. State the date of appointment to this school

1st June

  1. What testimonials of fitness for their office can they produce

Examiner and inspector

  1. What are the internal dimensions of the school in which the assistant is employed?

No answer

  1. How many children are on the roll?

No answer

  1. What has been the average daily attendance for the last six months?

No answer

  1. State the names of the other teachers in the school-room in which the assistant is employed?

No answer

  1. Is the assistant employed in teaching every day, and during the whole of ordinary school hours?

No answer

 

Thomas O’Dwyer, Manaager or Correspondent, 9th Day of July, Enniskerry Post Town

 

 

Note at back

 

Subcommittee 16 Sept 1863

Ordered

That Anne Toole be paid as Monitress (Senior) of the fourth year from the 1st of June

In ?acc after? the advice that qualifications of —- Toole do not at present warrant her appointment as assistant

 

Accompanied by: [dated 14th August 1863]

REPORT UPON APPLICATION FOR SALARY TO ASSISTANT TEACHERS

In Curtlestown National School

Parish of Powerscourt Conty of Wicklow

Patron or Correspondent: Rev Thos O’Dwyer Rel. Dn. R. C.  Post Town Enniskerry

 

  1. No. of apartments in this house used as school  Two
  2. Internal dimensions of each        29 ½ x 20(13) x 10 and 20 x 14 x 10
  3. State the number and names of teachers already recognized by the Board in each room and their Class Evan Philips 13            Margaret Dowling, –?rllmistress
  4. State the name of monitors or assistants already recognized by the Board if any                None
  5. State the names of of the other teachers already recognized by the Board if any in the school room in which this assistant is employed     Principal Teacher Evan Phillips
  6. State the Christian and Surname of the Assistant Teacher or Teachers on whom whose behalf this application is made    Anne Toole
  7. Age        16
  8. If ever before employed in a National School, state the name and county of last National School where they were employed, the date of their leaving it and their present class and division             Never employed
  9. State the date of his or her appointment to this school  June 9th 1863
  10. What testimonials of fitness for their office can they produce     No special testimonials
  11. Is the assistant for whom aid is sought employed every day in teaching and during the ordinary school hours      Yes
  12. State your origin of the teacher for whom salary is sought as to competency       Not competent as a ?probalissier? but ?coneshe? qualified by moderate ?exertion?
  13. As to character  Good
  14. What are the internal dimensions of the school room in which this assistant is employed?            29 ½ in length, part 20 in breadth, part 13, 10 ft high
  15. No. of children now on rolls?

Males 66              Females 60         Total 126

  1. Average daily attendance for the last four months?

Males 29              Females 25         Total 54

  1. No. of children present on day of visit?

Males 44              Females 34         Total 78

  1. Note any circumstance connected with this application you may consider material for the information of the Commissioners, and state fully the grounds upon which you recommend this application to be granted or rejected.                Special and somewhat peculiar circumstances stated on other side of report
  2. Date of visit 29th July 1863             [Signed District Inspector of National Schools]

Note on back of form

The chief and almost the only question in this case is whether a post can be given in addition to the aid already granted to this school. It has been repeatedly threatened that the salary of the ?rollmistress? should be withdrawn unless the yearly average should reach 45 at least. The attendance has risen very considerably of late and from no ascertainable cause except that a teacher in whom the public have confidence has replaced inefficient teachers. This time twelve months the number on the rolls was 36 males 45 females. Now there are 66 males 60 females, an increase little short of double and giving promise of an average yearly attendance of 60 and upwards.

If this attendance be not difficient to entitle the school to a part of an assistant, the question is to be considered whether the assistant on whose behalf this application is made and whose ?gr—th–? And present ?defection? experiments are a further obstacle to her being recognized as a teacher, may — specially recognized as a Senior Monitor. To appoint her as such —fully meet the expenses of the ?cade? – and it seems to be an experiment which is worth trying as an encouragement to the recent progress of the school.

Curtlestown NS: Request for salary of evening teacher 1861 – ED1/95 (Archive Month #19)

ED1/95 No 108 Curtlestown Roll #1119 Co. Wicklow, District 40

Request for aid by Thomas O’Dwyer towards the salary of an assistant teacher for Curtlestown Evening School

States that the average evening attendance has been 23, since opening as a night school. The average age is 19, and they are employed in various occupations in the immediate neighbourhood. They are taught spelling, reading, writing, arithmetic, grammar and geography.  The school is open Mon – Friday, from 6 – 9 o’clock.

Pupils pay 4d per week. Only male pupils attend. Evening school was established Sept 1861. The name of the teacher is Michael Cunningham.

Report on application:

States that school is in operation from 1st Sept to 1 March and 1 May to 1 July. The nature of employment of the pupils: 12 are turf-cutters the others are farm labourers or farmer’s sons.

The report states that Michael Cunningham (age 19?) competent in his literary acquirements, and shows good promise in this regard. His character is good, and his method of conducting the school is attentive and wholly efficient. He is the master of the day school.

The report concludes: “The education of young men in the locality has been much neglected owing to the the demand for field labour, and the disposition for improvement which the — shown deserves to be encouraged. This disposition deems to have sprung up with a sudden impulse but the lesson of this apparently precipitate and unusual desire for instructions seems to be that a fair teacher has only recently got charge of this school. Whether these young men will persevere or not is uncertain but the experiment of giving a grant to aid them seems worth trying.

 

Curtlestown NS Application for a Workmistress ED1/96 1855 (Archive Month #20)

ED1/96 No. 7 – Curtlestown Roll #1119 Co. Wicklow, District 40 & 38

QUERIES TO BE ANSWERED ON APPLICATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF EDUCATION FOR AID TOWARDS THE SALARY OF A WORK MISTRESS, In Curtlestown National School in the Parish of _______________ County of Wicklow

Application from Thomas O’Dwyer for Margaret Dowling, aged 35 to be paid as a workmistress. She commenced work on 26th March 1855. References are based in Bray. Can teach dressmaking and shirtmaking. Can teach all days 10 to 3 and Saturdays 10 – 1. Needlework will be taught in a separate apartment to the ordinary school room. The school on this date had an average daily attendance of 21 males and 22 females over the previous 6 months. 57 female children were to receive instruction, and this number was likely to increase.

A note on the back indicated an £8 salary for the workmistress.

The accompanying report states that the other teacher in the school on this date (28 June 1855) was John Byrne. There were 70 males and 60 females on the roll, and that the presence of a work school in the locality would be of great good, as the large female population of the locality are at present without any opportunity of learning needlework. Note adds that Dowling had previous work experience in Little Bray National School for more than two years. Adds that “the average female attendance will be small during the winter months owing to the rugged mountainous nature of the country and the great distance many of the pupils are obliged to travel daily to the school from their respective homes. A respectable attendance may be counted upon during the summer half year. On the whole I think the case is deserving of a favourable consideration.”

 

Brassington & Gale Valuation of Powerscourt 1853: Tenant Names (Archive Month #18)

In 1853, during the minority of the 7th Viscount Powerscourt, the firm Brassington and Gale (Bachelor’s Walk) were requested to carry out a valuation of all property on the Estate, to assist the Guardians of the estate in deciding on rents that should be charged for land. They produced a ledger of incredible detail, which is now in the National Library of Ireland (MS 2740) that lists all of the townlands in the Wicklow estate (Enniskerry and Castlemacadam), the tenants in each of the holdings in these townlands, their area and their value.

Below, I have reproduced some of this—namely the townlands, their total acreage and value, and the tenants names given in each. There is a return for each holding, so in many cases a tenant’s name will appear more than once. For each holding, the original lists several sub-sections—e.g. arable fields, rocky land, boggy land and their component values and areas—this isn’t reproduced. Therefore the list below should be read as all of the holdings within a townland, bearing in mind that their value was comprised of several sub-sections. Also, some holdings have joint tenants—I would imagine that these are usually related in some way.

Of course, there were many more tenants than are listed here—I suppose they sub-let land from the listed tenants. I am really just listing these names as a genealogical resource, so hope it is of some interest. There does seem to have been a map to accompany this report, but I haven’t seen it yet (I’m not even sure if it still exists). I have occasionally recorded details of note, usually any significant buildings that were noted or anything that was occupied directly by the estate (!In hand”). Unfortunately, details in the village were scant – buildings were only listed as dwellings, sub-divided by whether they had slated or thatched roof. Businesses or types of buildings, with some rare exceptions, were not indicated.

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Pensioners of Powerscourt 1844 (Archive Month #10)

A few months ago, I posted up some details of workmen’s account books for Powerscourt, held in the National Library Powerscourt collection manuscripts. Another related item is a list of people receiving pensions from Powerscourt (MS 43,038/3). I think this would have been unusual, or at least uncommon, for the time, and is probably another indication that Powerscourt treated his staff reasonably well for the time.

Lord Viscount Powerscourt’s Pensioners for the quarter ending 31st December 1844

Name Address
Yearly Pension Signature
Mary Harney Curtlestown £8 Her mark
Sarah Fox Ballinagee £10 Sarah Fox
Elizabeth Fitzwilliam Drumcondra £7 13s 4d
Paul Murphy Kilmolin £8 His mark
Lucinda Hacket Alms House £8 Her mark
Mary Flood Ballybrew £5 4s Her mark
Margaret Toole Near Kingstown £5 5s Her mark
Bridget McGuirk Glencree £3 5s Her mark
Robert Walsh Coolakey £2 12s His mark
Anne Barnwide? Drumcondra  £6

Total amount payable in last quarter: £15 19s 10d

Correction – The Drumcondra residents didn’t sign – they seem to have been paid a total amount in advance or else will be paid at the end of the year.